A little while ago, I managed to get in contact with a number of witnesses to the Columbine shooting who had reported in their interviews with government “investigators” events which contradicted the official narrative
. Their accounts variously described additional gunmen, for instance, whom they were able to name by name and who, they insisted to police over repeated interviews, were absolutely on-scene as perpetrators. Many of these “alternative” accounts were independently corroborated by other witnesses, sometimes by the dozen. There were six of these witnesses who communicated to me in all, all of whom wish to remain anonymous for now. In contacting them, I sent a link to my video, “The Columbine Cause
,” and asked them if they had any comments on the version I portrayed, which had been based off of their recorded testimonies and others’, versus the official version. Below is what they told me, in which I have removed all details which could be used to identify them. 1) Witness A confirmed that he was who I was looking for but did not reply further. 2) Witness B confirmed that he was who I was looking for but would only comment if paid:
I apologize, but I don’t do FREE interviews on this subject. Best of luck to you with this project.
I was therefore not certain that he would be giving reliable information and did not pursue the matter further. 3) Witness C replied,
“I will need sometime to think about this question Evan. It has been ten years and at some point in your life, you think about how to move on. I will be in touch after I watch the video and think about how to respond”
He did not send any further correspondence and did not reply to follow-up inquiries. 4) Witness D initially replied and then no response was given to a follow-up. Upon receiving a second follow-up, he gave the following response:
“I am so sorry Evan. I was thinking about it and then a lot was going on and I forgot that you wanted to talk with me. Honestly, it has taken me a very long time to get over my fears (only within the last couple of years) and I have blocked out most of the details of what happened as it helped me cope not to remember. I have only read bits and pieces of what was released to the public and only within the last year have I seen the photo of Eric and Dylan deceased on the floor. I don’t think that I want to bring up any of those memories when my life is normal again. I really hope that you understand.”
5) When I told Witness E who I was, sent him my video, and specifically asked about his testimony as reflected in the government documents, he replied by sending me his phone number and telling me,
“I’m interested in what you have found, i’m willing to talk.”
I don’t know what he had in mind to tell me when he wrote this but once I had him on the line, things turned difficult quickly. After greetings were exchanged, the conversation, which lasted approximately fifteen minutes, proceeded as follows:
WE: I’m really hesitant about talking. I’m kind of curious as to what you have. I don’t want my name in any book or anything like that. I’m happy to give you information but I don’t want my name on anything. EL: Sure. WE: So as long as you can guarantee me my name’s not going to be on anything, I’m okay with giving you any information I have. I mean, it was ten years ago, so… EL: Well, absolutely, I will not use your name if you don’t want me to. You’re the first person I’ve talked to so I’m kinda new at this. I’ll give you a little background on me and why I’m doing this and where I’m coming from? WE: Okay. EL: Basically, I’m a researcher is how this all started. When the “War on Terror” started, I was alarmed by it and I also thought that there was probably more to what was going with that than we were told so I started researching the background of that and along the way, I started tuning into alternative media and came across Columbine researchers talking about these government files where witnesses, lots of them, were talking about other shooters. So, I became really interested and decided to, well, I read the files and then decided to put something together to kind of present this publicly and see if anybody was interested in, if there was a cover-up, which it seemed there was, in breaking that. The primary interest is in having these things not happen anymore, obviously. So basically, we have this one story of why Columbine, you know, why the shootings happened. I’m not sure that that’s really the right story and if we’re trying to get to the root of why these things happen, I think that we probably have to go another route. So that’s where, I guess, that’s where you come in. I made this video two years ago and did a couple of interviews and articles to promote it and a lot of people are interested now. A lot of people watched it and said, gee, that was a lot of witnesses who said Robert Perry was there, or that Chris Morris was there, or Brian Sargent or whatever. And people are going, okay, so what really happened? All we really have are these government files which are five or six page interview summaries with people so I figure, enough time has gone by and people are interested in this; why don’t I contact some of the people who were there and see if you have anything to add to what we read in the interviews. I don’t suppose you’ve ever read your files from the police reports? WE: I started to. I just became less interested. EL: Okay, basically what they have you as saying is that you were — and if this is upsetting or anything just tell me to — WE: You’ve given me two reasons as to why you’re doing that. You’ve — that’s two different things as to why you’re doing it. What’s the reason you’re doing this? Is it to uncover something; is it the public interest? EL: Yeah, it’s public interest, basically. I mean, these acts of terrorism — I’m skeptical that we’re getting the full story and I think it is in the public interest that we get the full story. That’s about it. I mean, as far as why I picked up on Columbine in particular, it seemed like there’s so much evidence and nobody was covering it. So that’s why I got into it. But yeah, it’s a public interest thing. I don’t personally know anybody there or anything like that. WE: Okay. In that case, I’m more willing to promote the survival of the victims and the victims’ families as opposed to public interest. I don’t believe in harping on the negative as to what happened. I believe that the media keeps doing that; it’s going to keep focusing on the negative facts and I’m sure there’s a lot that’s untold to the public but there’s probably a reason for that. I’m involved in a very government, you know, family. I have a [government employee] as a [family member] and et cetera. My [other family member's] in [a government job] so I believe in what they do. I’m not saying it’s right; I’m just saying there’s probably a reason, whether it’s for our best judgement or not, it’s their judgement. If you’re doing this, I firmly believe you should do it to show what good came out of this. To show the bad and what was covered up isn’t going to help anybody. Yeah, it’s going to grab the media’s attention for a minute and society’s going to look at it for a little bit but that’s just wrong. That’s gonna hurt a lot of people and I’m not willing to help that. EL: All right, well, can I ask you, in your statement, it said that you were almost positive that there was another, at least another person involved, shooting that day, as did [...] other people who said the same guy. I mean, that — WE: The cops actually have a timeline of the exact moment where he was that day so that was my mistake. EL: So you would say then, there were people who were very insistent who also knew this guy. It said [...] you also were acquaintances with Harris and Klebold and you were pretty sure it wasn’t them whereas his alibis were [... weak]. WE: Yeah, that would be my alibis, too. Who would be yours? EL: Well, I don’t know but again, the interest here was that so many people put him there and some of them were adamant that it was neither of the two official accused. He wasn’t the only one that people said. WE: I’m not willing to hurt my fellow classmates reliving this. I would happily do this if you were there to say, “Hey, this was covered up but hey, this is the good that came out of it. This is ten years later; this is how society improved,” but you’re not and I’m not willing to help you. I don’t think that’s right and you’re going to make people and families of the victims, of survivors relive so much that they don’t have to and you can retell me my statement — trust me, I know it word for word; I had to give it a few times. EL: I don’t understand what you’re saying. Could you — WE: If you make this book and if you’re going to do it, do it but people are gonna read this and be like, “Oh, there’s a cover-up.” Okay, fine; the general society doesn’t understand. The average person has not been through a horrific event like that but you know, whether it be Columbine, whether it be the friggin’ Trade Center, they’re gonna look at this and be, like, reliving it ten years later. That’s not awesome; that’s terrible. I was very hesitant in talking to you but knowing the victims, I thought, “Hey, this may bring something awesome out of this. He may make this amazing book showing that, yeah, there was this cover-up, this could happen but there’s a conspiracy theory to everything. To suppress what could be this journalistic expedition for you is, you’re focusing on the wrong aspect; you’re focusing on fifteen minutes of fame and I’m not willing to help with that and whoever one of my classmates are is ashamed. EL: Well, what would you suggest — I mean, you’re saying, “what good came of it.” What would you suggest? WE: I, what good came of this? Law enforcement so much is more adept to look for red flags and yes, sometimes will go to extremes of looking at every single red flag but you know what? Sometimes, it needs to be done. [... Teachers are more likely to say,] “What students need help; what ones don’t?” Parents are probably more adept to what their students are feeling. Not every parent but maybe one parent changed. People are a lot more aware. It brought me closer to my family in general. I mean, I was a high-schooler who thought [I] knew everything, obviously, at [that age]. It brought me a lot closer to my family at the time. I mean, you view society a little bit differently. It made the whole town look a little bit differently at each other and kind of open your arms to each other. It made this town a little bit tighter. It made society look at what was wrong and how to fix it. Yeah, it may not be fixed but there’s options and there’s people that are aware of this. [...] There’s a lot that came out of it and that’s just off the top of my head; I had long work day [...]. So, there’s a lot that came out of this and if you’re just focusing on the cover-up of this, I’m not willing to incriminate people that I have absolutely no proof as to where they were that day, I — it’s something that was ten years ago in fifteen minutes of gunfire. I, as I told the sheriff that day, I can’t be a hundred percent as to what I saw but here’s what I feel I saw. I trust my eyes, I trust my judgement but they’ve proven me wrong before and I’m not willing to incriminate people or have people intervene in their lives for ten years later. They’ve moved past this and if they’re guilty, karma will come around; due day will come; punishment will come. It’s not me to put that on. So, that’s my feelings; I’m sorry I couldn’t help. I thought this was different. EL: No, that’s okay. My concern was that, also in looking at this, was that if this was the kind of cover-up that I and some of my colleagues suspect it was, this might not have been an isolated incident and that some of the other large events might have been arranged in a similar kind of way. In other words, if there was something bigger behind what happened, and that the reason why it was blamed on just the two kids who wouldn’t be talking and that the others were excluded to protect the truly guilty behind it — WE: Why would somebody protect the guilty? What’s the point of that? What comes of that? What good comes of protecting the guilty? EL: Well, that’s a good question. Again, I’m looking at it and asking questions where things look suspicious. It looked to me and to others like if that were the case, this might not be the only event of its kind and that there may be more in the future. Virginia Tech, for example, had a lot of questions around that, too, and so people are looking for — WE: Of course it was similar. He studied the case on Columbine so yeah, just like any serial killer, they’ve studied other criminals. They’re gonna have similarities. EL: Well, more than that, suspicious as to how the authorities acted with regard to the case and more of that type of question. There was another incident in Australia in 1996 where there’s also very serious questions about whether there was a larger group involved in that and if that is the case, are these people still operating and capable of doing another one. That’s where, I mean, this is not an angle that gets pursued in the media pretty much ever but it is something that was going around the alternative media and among some independent researchers whose work I studied and thought it was worth some merit at least considering. Like I said, you’re the first I’ve spoken to from the situation so I honestly am not very up on how people feel about it or if everyone believes there are people who were guilty but got off or not; I don’t know. I do know that some of the witnesses refused to say, no, to say that they were unsure. They were absolutely positive that most of the rest of those trench coat kids were involved in it, plus an adult. There were several witnesses in the science areas who all described — one girl produced a sketch — an older guy. So again, looking at it, I’m an outsider just looking at it through the window of these police interviews but that’s serious if there were other people involved that either got away through ineptness or if someone deliberately covered that up. Were the people covering that up knowingly working on the behalf of that group, and I guess that’s where the really serious questions start and that’s ultimately, I would say, my aim and where the real public interest is, is, “Is there a powerful group of criminals orchestrating these crimes for some gain?” Now, that’s not something you hear often and you know what, it might not be the case. But I guess that’s my ultimate thesis in this situation and I’m glad that you have taken the time to talk to me and give me your thoughts about this. WE: Well, I’m sorry I couldn’t help. Thank you. EL: All right. WE: Bye. EL: Bye.
6) Witness F was, without a doubt, the most forthcoming. He told me the following:
“I have a hard time watching your entire video. I watched 5 min. I saw too much that day, plain and simple. I have been told I could and would easily disappear if I tried to expose what happened that day. I was locked inside that building [for hours] with the teacher [Dave Sanders] that died, risked my life to save him and he still died. I lost [...] friends [...] and had many friends seriously injured. [...] I was O. C. D. trying to save myself from death at [such a young age]. I was also told by the police and investigators that I [...] was the most credible witness that day: However, I did not see [...] this and [...] that! [...] Everything I said happened in those 4 hours, the police have evidence of happening within 2 minutes of when I say it happened. They only denied my credibility after celebrating my accounts as true and belittling me and my mother to our faces! My mom taught me to “Pay attention to time, location, and description.” She taught me that it pays to pay attention. This time it didn’t pay it cost me. I am a potential threat to those guilty and still living. They cannot make up their minds of what is right and wrong, they’ve been sucked into to the evil [...]. I want to write a book, and have since it happened, but know too many reasons not to [publish it], like my family saying it risks my life. It still plagues me that my friends were forced to leave me while those sickened minds who killed them still walk [among] us. I want peace without being a martyr! I love and so I am lovable! What makes that so hard?!!! My protectors betrayed me, deeply. Would die for the truth, but want to live for the beauty of my lost friends memory and most important power of LOVE!”
To all of the witnesses I contacted, including those who may not have replied at all, I hope I presented myself in a manner that was respectful to your satisfaction. I do truly appreciate the difficulty imposed on you by the experience of the shooting, the events preceding it and its aftermath and wish you only the best in your recovery. [END] Permalink: Columbine Shooting Witnesses Speak Out
Download MP3 of “Unraveling the Sheriff’s Official Line”
Rolf Zaeschmar is a longtime Columbine shooting researcher who’s been on the case for over ten years. His many writings on the internet, often posted under the handle, “Starviego”, have introduced whole new audiences to a relatively unpublicized side of the attack, one which has been derived from the government documents related to it. In addition to working with the Columbine evidence, Rolf has also made connections between the profiles of other “random rage” spree killings such as Red Lake, Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois University. His work deserves the attention of anyone interested in any aspect of the mass shooting phenomenon which plagues society today. Rolf was good enough to talk to me and give his thoughts on the Columbine shootings and related events.
By way of introduction, Rolf first began researching the case shortly after the shooting took place because he was skeptical of the official story. He later joined with other researchers on the internet, where he became a key contributor to efforts to expose the discrepancies between the official version and the facts as he and others had uncovered them.
Rolf’s early research suggested that an underrepresented portion of those connected with the incident were disapproving of the official version. For instance, a Columbine parent named Christian Laplante was quoted by Extra Daily News as saying, “We can’t be so stupid as to think two teenagers did this. Two adults couldn’t have done this.”
About thirteen months after the attack, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office released a comprehensive presentation concerning the conclusions of their “investigation” into it. Titled Sheriff’s Office Final Report on the Columbine High School Shootings, the Sheriff’s Official Line maintained that not only had Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, two Columbine seniors who had been found dead at the scene, been the only attackers on 4/20, but that none of their friends or associates had any foreknowledge of the plan. Soon afterward, the government began to publish their once-secret internal documents which had been generated during the various phases of the “investigation”. 11,000 Pages of Investigative Files, also known as the 11K, was released in November 2001 and gave a disturbing new window into the shootings which was a major break in the case for researchers like Rolf.
The revelations spurred by the release of the 11K as compiled in Rolf’s postings led to renewed interest in the case around the internet and Jefferson County came under further pressure to release the remainder of its files. In 2003, a major boost was given when the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, which had also responded to the shooting, released a report titled Reinvestigation Into the Death of Daniel Rohrbough at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999. These files expanded upon what had been presented in the 11K.
According to what was now in the public domain, several witnesses to the shootings had named Columbine High School’s Trench Coat Mafia leader Chris Morris as a shooter and approximately two dozen described or named TCM member Robert Perry as the same. Still more described or named then-CHS junior and TCM member Brian Sargent as a shooter and at least one put TCM member Joe Stair on the scene that day, signficant not only due to his past threats to blow up the school but because he had graduated the year prior. In addition to these facts, several earwitnesses also told of a gunman shouting, “Joe, where are you? I’ve got three of them in here,” during the course of the siege. Many of the witnesses who ID’ed these individuals revealed that they knew precisely who it was doing the shooting because they knew them personally or from having seen them around school.
The other named suspects were rounded up within hours of the attack but despite relatively weak alibis, they were let go just as quickly.
The reported involvement of these others was officially addressed and dismissed in a Final Report file called “Trench Coat Mafia and Associates”. With the other suspects out of the way, the official focus would remain on the now very silent Harris and Klebold. However, if other attackers were involved as the many corroborating witnesses alleged, Eric and Dylan may not have been the only ones who committed serious crimes at Columbine.
According to the Sheriff’s timeline, the shootings officially began outside the school on the west stairs next to the cafeteria. This scene was witnessed by many students who stated that it was not specifically not Harris or Klebold doing the shooting, that it was specifically other individuals whom they recognized or that it was three or more individuals. Officially, after shooting outside, Klebold made a brief, unexplained foray into the cafeteria, where he did not shoot, then rejoined Harris outside. Officially, the two then entered the school through the west main doors. However, at this time, when the cafeteria surveillance cameras are conveniently missing eight minutes of footage, many witnesses reported shooters attacking the cafeteria and other, more remote parts of the citylike campus.
Although only four firearms, two shotguns and two semiautomatics, were allegedly used in the attack, many witnesses described the sound of automatic gunfire as having been heard outside and throughout the school. Also, witnesses to the alleged sale of Klebold’s TEC-9 pistol, which netted the only two prosecutions directly related to this case, those of Phil Duran and Mark Manes, described the buyer as having had acne. At no time during the 1998 to 1999 school year did Dylan Klebold have acne (January 1999 – 17 April 1999), but it was reportedly a distinctive feature of accused Columbine attacker Robert Perry.
Many other points about the official version are suspicious according to evidence found in the documents. One is that some of the deaths may not have happened the way that they were officially described.
Another point about the tragedy which almost everyone has bemoaned was the incredibly slow police response. Whereas most school shootings are stopped within minutes, the Columbine attack officially lasted for close to an hour despite hundreds of officers from over thirty agencies being present.
Although there were reports of officers attempting to enter prior to 12:00, the first organized police entry did not come until the time when Harris and Klebold officially committed suicide. It was begun on the side of the school opposite where shots were last heard and shots continued to be heard throughout the afternoon.
The explosions and gunfire which could be heard coming from within the school until up to 4 that afternoon were officially explained away as six to eight shots fired by police to open locked doors.
Having armed suspects alive in a school full of innocents for three to four hours while so many officials stood outside to “secure the perimeter” could look very bad for the authorities.
According to several corroborating witnesses, at least one unidentified adult was also an attacker at Columbine. His role in coordinating the attack and making sure it went to plan is unknown but for their part, the Columbine Trench Coat Mafia had been well-known to school authorities as a troublesome group for years prior to the attack. Afterward, however, almost everyone on the faculty played this down as much as possible.
The phenomenon of social outsiders wearing black trench coats as a symbol of separation emerged some time in the early ’90′s. It has typically been accompanied by an interest in hateful music, drug abuse and a dabbling in the occult. Many “Columbine client” murderers have worn trench coats during their attacks.
Columbine is a very high-profile mass shooting with a lot of suspicious characteristics but it isn’t the only one cast from such a mold. The Dunblane, Port Arthur and Gladio attacks, for instance, also seem to have much more to their stories than we were initially told by the governments charged with “investigating” them.
One particular string of events occurred right around the time of the Columbine attack. Numerous bomb threats and plans for school shootings in Colorado and around the nation came to light just as Columbine was hitting the news. For instance, a message was left on the nearby Stein Elementary School answering system in Lakewood which stated, “Yes, I’m one of the trench coat robbers [...] and if you don’t give up ten million dollars, we’re going to kill everybody in the school.” Curiously, according to the police files from which this anecdote arises the message was left not on April 20th but the day before, April 19th.
There are many very important facts about Columbine which have been deeply suppressed by the government and the media, which have access to all of the information Rolf and his colleagues have and more. Instead of honestly investigating the shooting, the government swept all the loose ends under the rug and busied itself with forcefully advancing a reactionary agenda. Meanwhile, the media contented itself with brutalizing audiences further via tasteless coverage of the attack which regularly included phrases such as “a grisly tableau of young bodies”, and “a bloodied young man dangled” and “a bullet slammed into her skull”.
Many repressive suggestions for change acquired support as a result of the horror caused by the Columbine attack, from the banning of the private ownership of firearms to filling the schools with police officers operating under “Zero Tolerance” principles to forcing psychiatric behavior modification onto young children. The political fallout from attacks like Columbine seems to follow a definite pattern not just in America but internationally.
If the State is involved in coverups as high-profile as the Columbine attack, it cannot jeopardize its credibility with a full confession. As such, reinvestigations typically only provide a few quality pieces of information and a lot of limited hangouts. Instead, a more widespread grassroots discussion of the suppressed evidence in crimes like Columbine may help to bring a resolution.
If there had been no patsies, Columbine would have been much more difficult to disguise as a teen-generated incident. Young people should take note that there are more pitfalls and traps strewn around the social landscape today than ever before and the stakes concerning what can go wrong have never been higher. By caring for for each other and ourselves, we may be less vulnerable to exploitation by a conspiracy seeking to cause our downfall.
Thanks to the hard work of Rolf and his colleagues, the Echoes of Columbine message board is full of quality research about the Columbine attack. The following posts by Rolf concern Columbine attack suspects Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
The following posts by Rolf concern the other Columbine attack suspects as well as possible causative forces in the attack.
The following posts by Rolf concern the weapons reportedly used in the attack.
The following posts by Rolf concern deaths related to the attack.
The following posts by Rolf concern the relationship of law enforcement to the attack.
The following posts by Rolf are organized around particular releases of government documents related to the Columbine attack.
The following posts by Rolf concern other mass shootings and similar attacks.
- 4-30-09 State Oil Academy, Baku, Azerbaijan
- 4-10-09 OAED Vocational College, Athens, Greece
- 1-24-09 Portland Niteclub Shooting
- 1-23-09 Belgium Nursery Rampage
- 9-23-08 Kauhajoki School of Hospitality(Finland)
- 7-27-08 TVUUC shooting, Knoxville, TN
- 4-29-08 Excel Institute, Wash DC
- 2-14-08 Northern Illinois University, Dekalb, Illinois
- 12-9-07 ‘Christian America this is YOUR Columbine’
- 12-4-07 Omaha Mall Shooting
- 11-7-07 Jokela Secondary School–Tusuula, Finland
- 10-7-07 “Instead of a Columbine, it’s a Crandon”
- 10-10-07 Plymouth Whitemarsh High School, Philadelphia PA
- 10-10-07 SuccessTech Academy, Cleveland, OH
- [Virginia Tech Shooting] TIMELINE
- Ring around Virginia Tech
- 2-12-07 SLC Trolley Square massacre
- 12-12-06 Springfield Township HS, Philadelphia, PA
- 11-20-06 Geschwister Scholl School, Emsdetten, Germany
- 10-9-06 Memorial Middle School, Joplin, MO
- Strange Bomb Threat clears out Culpeper schools(10-4-06)
- 9-27-06 Platte Canyon High School, Bailey, CO
- 9-14-06 East High School, Green Bay, Wis.(planned)
- Antwerp Massacre(5-11-06)
- “Welcome to the Columbine of Seattle”
- 10-1-05 University of Oklahoma (aka ‘the Brothers Hinrichs’)
- Russia (Beslan School #1)
- 10-11-02 Myyrmanni mall bombing(Finland)
- Return to Erfurt
- The school shooter that never was
- 9-16-99 Wedgewood Baptist Church, Ft. Worth, TX
- The Georgia Link
- The Alberta Link?
- London nail-bomb attacks linked to Columbine?
- 11-15-98 Burlington High School, Wisconsin(planned)
- James Saville–How to get a 17yr old to build a bomb for you
- Yes Virginia, 3rd Gunmen do Exist~~posted by Starviego
- 2-19-97 Bethel High School, Bethel, AK
- Dunblane(3-13-96) evidence releaase
- 5-28-75 Centennial Secondary School in Brampton, Canada
- Rep. Tom Tancredo(R.-Colo) lives six blocks from CHS???
- Trench Coats but not Columbine
- TV shows and school shootings
- Youth Violence and Psych Drugs (Incident List)
[END] Permalink: Unraveling the Sheriff’s Official Line: Columbine Researcher Rolf Zaeschmar on School Shootings and More
In October 2007, I released a video called “The Columbine Cause”, which discusses many reported features of the 1999 Columbine High School attack which were never fully discussed in major media. Some of these features include reports of additional dead, additional shots fired, and above all, additional attackers other than the two found in the library, the alleged suicides and Columbine High School seniors, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
While doing research for the presentation, I came across an internet site called Judicial-Inc.biz. The site features discussions of many acts of terrorism including the attack on Columbine. The site is popular and well-known; a web search on the word, “Columbine”, for example, will usually bring up Judicial’s main page on the attack within the top ten to twenty results.
Judicial has published information concerning the many well-grounded reports which conflict with the official story of the attack, many of which are substantiated by information found in the police and FBI’s own records. However, their presentation is riddled with either incredibly sloppy fact-checking or a conscious attempt to distort the facts in favor of pointing a finger toward the Jewish in a false way.
In light of this realization, I contacted an individual called “The_Skunk”, who runs the site, and shared with him some of my concerns, and him asked for some sources on what I knew to be fraudulent portrayals of Columbine information. “The_Skunk” responded that my questions might be, quote, “right on” and suggested that I publish a web site to counter his. Below are some of Judicial’s main claims about the Columbine attack, followed by my commentary.
Assertion One: Eric Harris was Jewish.
Judicial’s source for this statement is a Salon article by Jill Wolfson called “Hurting Young Men Put Pen to Rage” which contains the quote, “My mother is Jewish! [...] Dreydl power!” However, a careful read of the article, or even a not-so-careful read of the article, reveals that, although she was writing about him, Wolfson was not quoting Eric Harris but rather, an unnamed boy in one of her writing classes. If Harris was Jewish, Judicial’s source doesn’t show it.
Assertion Two: Harris’ diaries contained a plan to escape to Israel after the attack, which would be helpful to him because Israel considers all Jews automatic citizens and will not extradite them to foreign nations to stand trial for crimes committed in those nations.
For the reason stated in the response to assertion one above, this policy of Israel’s would probably not have been helpful to Eric Harris. Nevertheless, in 2006, a nearly one thousand page file of diaries and other writings attributed to Harris, Dylan Klebold and others was released by law enforcement authorities (part one | part two). However, the only escape fantasy it seems to contain is a piece attributed to Harris which described escaping after a violent attack to, “some island somewhere or maybe mexico (sic), new zelend (sic) or some exotic place where americans (sic) can’t get us”. This is found on pages JC-001-026343 to JC-001-026344. If anyone can find a page number for the Israel entry, please share it.
Assertion Three: CHS class of 1998 Joe Stair claimed that the Trench Coat Mafia group was founded to protect a “gay Jewish kid”.
Judicial provides a link to another Salon article by Dave Cullen called “Inside the Columbine High Investigation” which contains the sentence, “The rumors seem to have originated two years ago, with a single member of the Trench Coat Mafia who may have been gay or bisexual.” As you will notice, the member is not named.
Assertion Four: The three boys arrested in a field during the attack, the so-called “Splatterpunks”, were named “Siegel, Cohen and Smith”.
All of the police files and media coverage, including an appearance on Sally Jesse Raphael’s talk show, indicates that these individuals’ names were Matt Akard, Jim Brunetti and Matt Nalty, except some media reports which had “Christianson” as Nalty’s last name. Judicial gives no reason as to why it falsely gave these individuals Jewish names.
Assertion Five: An older-looking male named Nathan Klein was publicly arrested for having some connection or alleged connection to the attack.
The name, “Nathan Klein”, appears nowhere in the police documents related to the attack, nor in any media articles about it. While several witnesses who took cover in the science rooms during the attack reportedly told police that they saw an older individual who appeared to be balding and in his thirties holding a sawed-off shotgun in the halls of Columbine, the individual in Judicial’s picture does not match his description, nor a witness’s sketch of the gunman. Judicial does not give any further explanation but Columbine shooting researcher Rolf Zaeschmar informs me that the image is of Larry Scott Petty, an armed individual who was arrested on-scene that day.
Assertion Six: Some police connected with the “investigation” of the attack believed that the Jewish Defense League, or JDL, was involved in constructing some of the bombs used against the school.
While some reports surfaced that some law enforcement agents at the scene remarked that some of the bombs used in the attack appeared to have been too sophisticated for two teenagers to have built themselves, I was unable to find any articles mentioning the JDL specifically. Judicial provides no source for the statement.
Judicial-Inc’s authors are mixing important information about major cover-ups with a high percentage of misinformation. I strongly suggest that anyone using Judicial-Inc as a reference seek outside verification of its statements. As you can see, the research quality on their well-read Columbine pages is laughably poor to outright farcical. It is high time that the silence surrounding the Columbine cover-up is broken in a widespread manner but Judicial-Inc is not helping in this regard. [END] Permalink: Judicial-Inc’s Columbine Shooting Pages
Hello, my name’s Evan Long and I’m reporting for EvanLong.tk and TheColumbineCause.tk. Today is Tuesday, 18 May 2010. The topic of this video is Columbine, DOOM and Marilyn Manson: 11 Years Later, Misconceptions Remain.
One of the most popular topics in the media analysis of the Columbine High School shootings was the possible role played by violent first-person shoot ‘em up video games such as DOOM, and by recordings made by Church of Satan reverend Brian Warner, a. k. a. Marilyn Manson. Whatever the actual role of these influences in causing the shooting, a couple of myths have surfaced regarding these topics and the purpose of this video is to offer some alternative information on that. In particular, we’re going to be looking at the notion that accused killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did not listen to Marilyn Manson and also that they did not code a level of DOOM to resemble Columbine High School.
Regarding the DOOM thread, this topic was featured on a web site called Snopes.com which claims to dispel urban legends. According to an article written by Barbara Mikkelson, who runs the site with her husband, it is, quote, “false” that Eric Harris, who liked to play and create levels for DOOM, created a level that resembled Columbine High School. Furthermore, the article ads, no one should even bother looking for motive in this case; instead, we should merely accept that Harris was Satan incarnate and leave it at that.
Likewise, when it was suggested that the Columbine shootings had been influenced by Brian Warner’s recordings, such as “Misery Machine,” perhaps, which features the chorus, “My arms are wheels, my legs are wheels and blood is pavement,” Warner himself was given space in Rolling Stone magazine to refute the claims, citing, quote, “responsible journalists” who had reported that Harris and Klebold did not his listen to his group. Although Warner cited no names, one journalist who did put forth this notion is Dave Cullen, author of the quote-unquote “definitive” book on Columbine, simply titled, Columbine, who wrote that, quote, “Harris and Klebold hated Marilyn Manson.”
However, there is a large body of government documents related to the Columbine High School shootings which began to emerge in 2000 as a result of some survivors’ dissatisfaction with the official findings known as Sheriff’s Office Final Report on the Columbine High Shootings. The documents are comprised of witness interviews, intelligence on suspects from their peers and other information. These documents have not received much publicity and have not been widely read. However, they contain a great deal of information about the circumstances of the shooting, including information about both DOOM and Marilyn Manson.
Regarding DOOM, it is stated on page 7,043 of the documents that then-CHS student David Proctor, who had played the game with Harris and Klebold via modem several times, told police that, quote, “earlier this year  Harris had told him he designed a level of Doom that was Columbine High School.” Regarding Marilyn Manson, on page 26,113 is an essay allegedly written by Eric Harris in which the reader is exhorted to really “HEAR” the music he or she listens to. In it, there is a short list of bands the author apparently finds appealing. The sentence reads, in part, quote, “Songs from bands like RAMMSTEIN, KMFDM, NIN, M. M.” In this context, “NIN” and “M. M.” can only mean “Nine Inch Nails” and “Marilyn Manson,” and since they are listed right next to KMFDM and Rammstein, which were widely known to have been among Harris’ favorite groups, we must assume that he did hold some fondness for them.
Compared to some of the other information found in these files, however, this information could be considered to be of extremely low importance overall. For instance, in the main body of witness interviews, a section known as “11,000 Pages of Investigative Files,” are found nearly one hundred separate instances of witnesses naming or describing in detail participants in the attack other than Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
The complete list of these is far too long to examine right now but to take a few specific examples, then-student Ashley Egeland, who was in a hallway when the shooting started, told police and gave a signed statement that she was shot at by Eric Harris and someone else whose name was redacted. However, we see on another page in Ashley’s interviews that the name she gave was Morris, which tells us that she was naming Chris Morris, a friend of Harris and Klebold and the reported leader of the trench coat group in 1999.
Another witness was Cara Sander, who told friends and police that one of the gunmen she saw was decidedly not Harris or Klebold and later identified him as Brian Sargent, another trench coat mafia member.
Bijen Monte was another witness, one of many who named former student Robert Perry, a very tall young man with bad acne, as one of the shooters and still more implicated a shooter named “Joe,” which is especially significant since former student and trench coat mafia leader Joe Stair was reportedly spotted on campus that morning by witness Leiha Murphy.
Even more disturbing than any of these, however, may be reports of an older gunman in his late 20′s or 30′s who appeared to be balding stalking the science halls with a sawed-off shotgun, as described by witnesses including then-student Jennifer Smull.
No mainstream Columbine books or videos address this information in any sort of respectable way, when they address it at all. As such, the history of the Columbine High School shootings still remains to be discovered by most, even those who may consider themselves well-versed on the subject.
Once again, my name is Evan Long and I’m reporting for EvanLong.tk and TheColumbineCause.tk. [END] Permalink: Columbine, Doom and Marilyn Manson